Here is a brief log of my current upgrade from ADSL2 Plus to NBN in Australia (TPG Internet). This is not a paid endorsement and is posted as FYI.
Below is my current ADSL2 Plus Plan/Speed on TPG ADSL2.
On past occasions, I could get 12 megabits down but for the last 12 months, I have never synced faster than 10 megabits down.
Slow uploads in general (to servers in Sydney) 🙁
Latest ADSL2 Speed (8:55pm, 18th Jan 2018)
Ping to www.fearby.com on ADSL 2
ping www.fearby.com -c 4
PING fearby.com (184.108.40.206): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 220.127.116.11: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=39.902 ms
64 bytes from 18.104.22.168: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=29.138 ms
64 bytes from 22.214.171.124: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=29.379 ms
64 bytes from 126.96.36.199: icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=40.172 ms
--- fearby.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 29.138/34.648/40.172/5.391 ms
Upload of a small 9,551,485 byte file (Latest WordPress) to www.fearby.com on ADSL 2 via SCP.
192-168-1-1:Downloads username$ scp /Users/username/Downloads/wordpress-4.9.2.zip firstname.lastname@example.org:/wordpress-4.9.2-try1.zip
100% 9328KB 94.0KB/s 01:39
192-168-1-1:Downloads username$ scp /Users/username/Downloads/wordpress-4.9.2.zip email@example.com:/wordpress-4.9.2-try2.zip
100% 9328KB 96.9KB/s 01:36
192-168-1-01:Downloads username$ scp /Users/username/Downloads/wordpress-4.9.2.zip firstname.lastname@example.org:/wordpress-4.9.2-try3.zip
100% 9328KB 82.4KB/s 01:53
Benchmark time: 1:39 to 1:53 to upload 6.5mb, it tales about 10 seconds to verify the upload.
Note: The biggest problem is ADSL offers a static IP and I have whitelisted the scp port above, the NBN plan I am switching to is dynamic so I will have a hard time securing my remote servers.
Traceroute to google.com.au on ADSL 2
www.google.com.au (188.8.131.52), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192-168-1-1 (192.168.1.1) 1.199 ms 1.187 ms 1.413 ms
2 10.20.23.227 (10.20.23.227) 29.532 ms 30.313 ms 27.124 ms
3 syd-apt-ros-agr11-po22 (184.108.40.206) 28.292 ms 27.117 ms 29.571 ms
4 syd-apt-ros-dom1-be-20 (220.127.116.11) 29.204 ms
syd-apt-ros-dom1-be-10 (18.104.22.168) 27.754 ms 31.400 ms
5 22.214.171.124 (126.96.36.199) 28.568 ms 50.800 ms 28.137 ms
6 188.8.131.52 (184.108.40.206) 29.928 ms
220.127.116.11 (18.104.22.168) 31.486 ms 28.237 ms
7 22.214.171.124 (126.96.36.199) 28.402 ms 30.678 ms
188.8.131.52 (184.108.40.206) 28.277 ms
8 syd09s15-in-f3.1e100.net (220.127.116.11) 27.205 ms 28.268 ms 27.851 ms
Worst Time: 28.268ms
Current ADSL2 Setup
1x TP-Link TD-W8961N 300 Mbps ADSL2 Router (9v 0.8A5mp Router, Firmware: Build 141023 Rel.24, 1483 Bridged IP LLC. VPI: 1, VCI: 35).
Wifi LAN Setup
Beacon Interval: 100ms, Transmit Power High, RTS/CTS Threshold: 2347, Fragmentation Threshold(bytes): 2346, Channel Bandwidth: 20/40Mhz, Channel 13 (only AP within 5 channels, WPA2-PSK, TKIP/AES, WDS: Off, Wireless B/G/N)
Existing Wifi Syncs at 57Mbps and range is good all across the residence. No neighbour WiFi impacts our WiFi. I can get WiFi signal at the mailbox 80m away with no troubles.
Current ADSL2 Sync Speed
My NBN FTTN Cabinet
(Local houses blurred) Tthe inside of the cabinet appears empty.
This is my FTTN Cabinet (9th Jan 2008, no innards)
This is the speed of my brothers TPG NBN (about 3km away and who is approximately 150m from his cabinet), he is on a 50MB TPG plan.
This is the approx speed of FTTN connections based on distance from the node.
My house is about 300m from the NODE (approx) and I doubt I can get more than 80 megabytes down, On the up-side, our neighbourhood is about 12 years old and has potentially new copper.
I was expecting NBN in Feb/March 2017 (based on communication with my federal member) but had to wait until Jan 5th, 2018 before I could connect.
This was a reply I had on the 1st of December 2016 from my local Federal member regarding NBN rollout in my region.
Thank you for your email to the Member for New England, the Hon Barnaby Joyce MP regarding the NBN FTTN rollout in Tamworth.
The National Broadband Network (NBN) rollout has already commenced in the New England electorate. Here in Tamworth, fixed wireless towers are operational around the outskirts of the city and outer townships.
To date all new estates around Tamworth have Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) and are live. Some of these estates include Moore Creek Gardens, Windmill Downs Estate, Bellfields Estate, Calala (Redbank & Lampada Estates), Longyard (Lyons Estate) and Oxley Vale (Reagan Estate).
I can advise that the rollout out of the NBN via Fibre to the Node (FTTN) in Tamworth is scheduled to commence in the first quarter of 2017. Initial design and construction has already commenced. Updates on the rollout of the NBN are available online at www.nbnco.com.au.
NBN have advised that the inspectors that you saw in East Tamworth were Telstra staff and not NBN staff, which would explain why they would have had no knowledge of the rollout.
At this stage until final designs are complete dates for the rollout around Tamworth are unavailable but estimates are showing February / March.
I trust this information is of assistance.
Upgrade to NBN
7th Jan 2018:
I was receiving unsolicited calls from telecommunication companies saying that NBN was available in my neighbourhood. I Asked NBN on Twitter about the average NBN connection timeline at my residential address (I informed them that my neighbourhood node is empty). NBN said the NBN was ready in my neighbourhood but only an RSP (NBN retailer) can answer the connection timeline. NBN said they cannot comment on FTTN cabinet installation status.
Ok, these are the plans available to me on TPG.
I think I will go with the 50/20 nbn50/18 month contract, no free mobile and $0 landline plan.
9th Jan 2018
I visited the TPG website to upgrade to NBN, the TPG website said I need my landline account number before I can upgrade to NBN.
Our ADSL2 is with TPG but the landline is with Soul. I rang Soul (13 34 44) to acquire my Soul landline account number. The Soul Representative said we will lose our existing landline number if we move to NBN (was this strategy to force people to stay with Soul)? The Soul representative was unable to provide my landline customer number. I was transferred to a TPG customer service line. The TPG representative that I was transferred too was also unable to help and they transferred me back to soul via TPG customer support (13 30 20 (I pressed 1 at the menu)). I was on hold 1 hour 20 mins (put back in the queue 17 times (auto) each time the music ran out). The representative provided my account number: ### # ###. Yay.
The Soul Representative said we don’t need to cancel our landline phone plan, They informed me TPG request a pull of the line and Soul will release the number? Now that I have the landline account number I tried to upgrade to NBN at TPG online at https://cyberstore.tpg.com.au/your_account/
I had an internal server error updating when I tried to update my CC so I talked to TPG on Twitter to report the error.
After receiving an Internal Erro message I scanned the TPG website SSL certificate with https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=www.tpg.com.au&latest
I found a few concerns with TPG’s SSL certificate
- Internal Server Error
- Weak SSL cyphers
- SSL Expiring/Untrusted soon warnings (Symantec)
I reported these issues to TPG on Twitter and asked what the upload speed will be 0n the 50-megabyte plan? TPG said the upload speed will be 20 megabits.
TPG on twitter said they will notify their System Administrators regarding the Internal Server Error and SSL concerns. They also said I can upgrade to NBN by sending an email to email@example.com, TPG offered to call me ( I said yes please, tomorrow would-be best time to call me ).
10th Jan 2017
I googled my NBN cabinet number (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=2TAM-24-20-FNO-001) and found the Telstra wholesale spreadsheet that listed the 5th of Jan 2018 as ready for service dates. https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/content/dam/tw/nbn/Documents/rollout-list.xlsx
A disconnection date for regular services is slated for 12-Jul-2019 for my area.
This is a handy thread- NBN Rollout – Tamworth (2TAM) – “NBN” – Whirlpool Forums: https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1861188
One Tamworth Whirlpool user mentioned they are approximately 350m from the node and can get 100mb down, this is promising.
11th Jan 2017
I waiting for a call from TPG (I will get 50/20MB, 18-month CONTRACT = $0 Installation, No Mobile Trial, $0 Pay as You Go Landline).
TPG called and lead me through the upgrade steps, terms and conditions over the phone ((02) 9850 0800).
I was asked
- For my address
- What services do I have with TPG
- My internet username
- My landline phone services (Soul)
- Landline number and my landline acc number.
Further Call Summary
- I confirmed I would like the 50mb down plan. TPG said I can keep the existing landline number (fingers crossed).
- TPG confirmed I will be charged $69 a month and also be charged a $30 off one-time fee ($10 router shipping and $20 install phone credit)
- I updated my email for email updates with the TPG representative.
- TPG said It will take 2-30 business days to install and upgrade.
- The WiFi Router will be shipped via Startrack.
- NBN may be slower between 7-11pm.
- TPG mentioned they won’t pay cash is if download speeds cant be maintained (and I have to agree to a legal waiver before upgrading).
- It will take 1-5 business days to transfer the landline number (during this time the landline will be down).
- $350 cancel fee.
- Auto top up after phone credit falls below $10.
- I had to listen to a waiver/customer service guarantee (No right to compensation (only account credit is paid)).
- All inside cabling is at my cost.
- TPG will email updates during install.
- Will we have a VOIP phone?
- TPG representative read me a power outage disclaimers (VoIP phones need broadband to make phone calls, blackouts, battery disclaimer etc).
I asked TPG if I can ask 6 questions before I waive my rights.
Q1) Can I use TPG for work/commercial purposes? (as the TPG pre-recorded message said I could not use (the TPG nbn50) TPG/NBN for commercial purposes)?
TPG said Yes, I can use it for work purposes (they did not ask what type of work (I am a software developer)).
Q2) What is the Upload speed?
Q3) During the upgrade will the Internet be down?
No internet downtime.
Q4) What brand modem will be shipped?
Random TP-LINK or Huawai modem?
Q5) Will I have access to the modem admin features to secure our wifi and update the router security?
Yes, customers own the device. We can have admin access to the device. But need to call technical support.
Q6) Do landline voice calls consume data quota?
No, Voice does not use data quota.
TPG read a final summary
- Connection to FTTN.
- $30 once off fee (shipping and ph credit).
- Free modem sent to be sent after payment.
- Activate service timeline.
- We do not need to cancel Soul landline.
- Will get email updates.
Done, I have now signed up to NBN. 32 mins total call time.
TPG called again.
I was offered the free 3-month mobile again, I said no again.
I asked TPG Twitter
Q1) Do NBN connections have static IP’s like TPG ADSL?
No, NBN personal plans have dynamic IPs, only business plans have static.
(Busines plans are more expensive)
It has been 4 days (2 business, 2 weekend days) since I upgraded and no progress on payment progress.
I feel like Fry
After a number of days, my money was taken.
The Router (Huawei HG659) arrived on the 17th Jan 2018 (it would not sync with the node so I’ll wait until the 24th, the FTTP cabinet appears empty still).
TPG state this is a Pre-configured (VDSL 2) router.
NBN Installation Appointment
IInstallation Set for 24th of Jan 2018 (I will update this post when NBN is active)
NBN Router Configuring
Installation Set for 24th of Jan 2018 (I will update this post when NBN is active)
Wifi: (Channel, Power, Benchmark etc): todo.
Placement: todo after NBN is active.
Admin UI Lock Down: todo after NBN is active.
Security: Sub Wifi Network (using an old router as a child wifi network), todo after NBN is active.
Installation Set for 24th of Jan 2018 (I will update this post when NBN is active)
Will update when NBN is active. Activation is set for 24th of Jan 2018 (I will update this post)
Installation Set for 24th of Jan 2018 (I will update this post when NBN is active).
todo: Ping to www.fearby.com on NBN
todo: Upload of a small 9,551,485 byte file (Latest WordPress) to www.fearby.com on ADSL 2 via SCP.
todo: Traceroute to google.com.au on NBN
Pros (so far)
- TPG Social Media is awesome
Cons (so far)
- No Static IP on TPG Residential NBN plans like TPG Residential ADSL Plans.
- 2-4 day wait for payment before the 2-30 day upgrade happens. TPG should mention 4-30 days installation.
- How does it take 4 days (2 business days + 2 weekend days) to verify payment in 2018?
- New router has a 2A power supply (router has little vents for cooling compared to my 0.85 amp TPLink ADSL2 router)
I hope this helps someone, I will update the post with ever change..
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v1.4 Added traceroute times on ADSL 2
v1.3 Added ping time on ADSL 2
v1.2 Added ADSL 2 info.
v1.1 Added VDSL 2 info.
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